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are you familiar with the extinct
你知道爱丁堡亚瑟
volcano that is Arthur's seat in
王座这座死火山吗
Edinburgh yes were you on Arthur's seat
?是的,你九月二号在亚瑟王座上吗
on the second of September
yes did you hear any anything out of the
?是的,你听到任何异常的声音了吗?
ordinary I heard a
我听到一声
scream we want to emergency we're up on
尖叫声,我们要紧急救援。 在
Arthur seat near at the very top of it
亚瑟座位上,在最顶端附近,
uh we heard someone screaming and
我们听到有人尖叫,
there's a guy here he said his wife
这里有个男人,他说他的妻子
would fall off of The Edge I think what
会从边缘掉下来,我想
part of our officers know the more
我们的官员们知道越
vertical
垂直的
side the mean charge is that the accused
一侧,平均电荷就越大 被告
did assault his wife FIA javeed and did
确实殴打了他的妻子 FIA javeed,并
push her from height at Arthur's seat in
在爱丁堡的亚瑟王座上将她从高处推下,
Edinburgh and was so severely injured
that she died and he did murder her a
导致她严重受伤致死,并且他确实谋杀了她,一名
man has been arrested in connection with
男子因涉嫌导致
the suspicious death of a woman who fell
一名女子
from Arthur's seat you have no evidence
从亚瑟王座上坠落而死亡而被捕 你没有证据证明
to tell you what happened on the hill
山上发生了什么,
you're just being asked to take a
你只是被要求进行
massive
大胆
guess the accused will maintain that
猜测,被告将坚持认为
this was simply an
这只是一场
accident how then does the crown
意外,那么控方如何
demonstrate that there was a deliberate
证明这是一起故意的
push I've prosecuted many murder cases
推搡? 起诉了多起谋杀案
over the course of my career but for a
在我的职业生涯中,我处理过很多案件,但由于
variety of reason
各种原因,
this case is
这个案子
extraordinary for F's mom and indeed the
对 F 的妈妈和整个家庭来说都是非同寻常的,
whole family this is a very emotional
这是一个非常情绪化
and difficult
和困难的
time they have attended all the way from
时刻,他们从
leads to be
线索到
here it's going to be a traumatic time
现在一直参与其中,这将是一次创伤 现在是
for all of us I know I'm going to come
所有人的时间,我知道我将要
face to face with him this person has
面对他,这个人
destroyed us
毁了我们
we all want to know what actually
我们都想知道
happened to FIA and we'll fight to get
FIA 到底发生了什么,我们将为伸张正义而战,并找到
Justice and
answers
答案,
who if there's one memory I have about
如果有的话 我对
FIA is just laughing you come FIA was
FIA 的记忆就是笑,你来吧 FIA
almost like a a Wonder Woman she was
几乎就像一个神奇女侠,她很
smart she was beautiful some would say
聪明,很漂亮,有些人会说
she had it
她拥有它
all as the trial starts what's going
当审判开始时,
through your
你在
mind
想什么,
hat ha for
为
him right good morning everyone mag
他加油,大家早上好 mag
deput uh what's happening first today
deput 呃今天首先发生了什么事
thank you my Lord the first witness for
谢谢大人第一位
the crown is number 26 on the crown list
王室证人是王室名单上的第 26 位
all right thank you the key issue is
好吧谢谢关键问题是
what happened on Arthur's seat so I will
亚瑟王座上发生了什么所以我将
open the case with one of the witnesses
与其中一位证人一起开庭
who was on the hill at the time however
在山上,但
we don't have an eyewitness other than
我们当时没有 除了被告之外的目击证人,
the accused the defense might argue that
辩方可能会争辩说,
there's insufficient evidence to justify
没有足够的证据证明
murder so it's up to me to prove the
谋杀是正当的,所以由我来证明案件
case Beyond A Reasonable
Doubt have you been on Arthur seat on
无可置疑,你多次坐过亚瑟座位吗?
many occasions yes would I be right in
是的,我
saying there are several roots that one
说的对吗?有几个根源 一个人
can take to get to the summit mhm
可以到达山顶,嗯
correct is it an area which is prone to
对吗,这是一个适合
Recreation with lots of people walking
休闲娱乐的地方,据我所知,有很多人在那里散步
up there to my knowledge
yes there's a good view of Edinburgh
是的,从山顶可以看到爱丁堡的美景,
from the top is that correct
对吗,
yes were you on Arthur's seat on the 2nd
是的 2021 年 9 月 2 日,你坐在亚瑟王座上,
of September 2021
yes did you hear anything out of the
是的,你听到什么
不寻常的声音了吗?我听到一声
scream could you tell if it was a male
尖叫,你能分辨出是男性
or female
还是女性的
scream there were a couple of Screams
尖叫声吗?有几声尖叫声,
one was from a female screaming and then
一个是女性的尖叫声,然后
I heard a male
我听到 一个男人
screaming and then I saw a gentleman
在尖叫,然后我看到一位先生
coming down uh basically asking for help
走下来,呃,基本上是在寻求帮助,
very
非常
panicked would you recognize the male if
惊慌失措,如果
you saw him again yes could you look
你再次见到他,你会认出那个男人吗?是的,你能
around the court and tell me if you see
环顾一下球场,告诉我你是否
him there and just for the record
在那里看到他,只是为了 记录
purposes you've pointed to the the man
你指出
between the two security officers in the
被告席上两名保安人员之间的那个男人的目的
dock is that
是否
correct was any explanation offered to
正确,有没有得到任何
you as to what had happened uh the
关于发生的事情的解释,呃,
gentleman said that his wife had fallen
那位先生说,他的妻子
off of Arthur seat off of the summit and
从山顶的亚瑟座椅上掉了下来,
he wanted me to dial 999 and did you do
他 让我拨打 999,你打了吗?
that yes I'm going to play a recording
是的,我要播放一段录音,
which is label number one trible 9
标签是 1 号 trible 9
call emergency hey we're up on Arthur's
紧急呼叫嘿,我们在亚瑟
seat near the very top of it we heard
座位的最顶端附近,我们听到
someone screaming there's a guy here he
有人尖叫,这里有个人 他
said his wife had fallen off of The Edge
说他的妻子从边缘掉了下来,
I think right what part of our also no
我想是的,我们的哪一部分也没有
the more vertical
更垂直的
side are you able to approach the mail
一侧,你能接近邮件吗,
hey buddy I'm on the phone with the
嘿,伙计,我正在和
Emergency
紧急
Services she's on the other side yeah oh
服务部门通电话,她在另一边,是的,哦,
you okay
你 好的
buddy do we need an ambulance uh do you
伙计我们需要救护车吗呃你
need an ambulance you think yeah 100%
需要救护车吗你觉得是的100%
that's what I thought listen I'll get
我就是这么想的听着我会
someone there as soon as we can okay
尽快派人去好的
yeah no problem thank
没问题谢谢
you after that point what happened the
你在那之后发生了什么事那位
gentleman kept trying to go over to to
先生一直试图 过去
get the woman who had fallen but uh he
救出摔倒的女人,但是 呃,他当时
was struggling to get up there I think
挣扎着想爬上去,我想
it was just his shoes or it was just
那只是他的鞋子的问题,或者
slippy at the time and did you receive a
当时只是地滑,你有没有接到
call back from the Emergency Services
急救部门的回电,
the ambulance service in particular yes
特别是救护车服务部门的回电,是的,
did the man you've identified also speak
你确认的那名男子是否也说过
on the telephone
电话
yes I you look
是的我你看
at the moment no no
此刻
no you're not at the
不不不你
moment
completely what happen toward the edge
完全没有发生什么边缘
and there was a bit of a he was walking
和有一点他走
in front of us and rock whatever you
在我们前面和摇滚无论你
call
叫什么
and
和
no I I fli we we both technically and
不我我飞我们我们 从技术上讲,
then iing her arm she she went
然后我抓住了她的手臂,她
sideway and
侧身走了,
what was walking on thaty Rock i i i my
那块岩石上行走着什么,我的
fur I
皮毛,我
get and is
得到了,
any is she
她有没有
bleeding
流血,
hello is she breeding
你好,她是否活着繁殖
alive the police have arriv now I'll
警察已经到了,我现在要
leave you with the
离开你 和
Poli all right thank you very much Mr do
Poli 一起,好的,非常感谢,先生,
good how many times have you been up to
你去过
the summit on Arthur seed I would say
亚瑟种子峰顶多少次?我可以说,
over 100 most of my life have been going
我一生中大部分时间都
up there so all right so you are aware
在那里,所以,好的,所以你知道
of part of the summit which descends
部分 山顶
quite rapidly from um I suppose the top
从
of some Crags or rocks or Cliffs is that
某些峭壁或岩石的顶部迅速下降,或者 悬崖,
right yes I do my best to avoid it and I
是的,我会尽力避免它,我
take it you do your best to avoid it
认为你也会尽力避免它,
because you know about it yes is that
因为你知道它是的,是
right yes so when you're on the summit
的,所以当你在山顶时,
you know how to descend from the summit
你知道如何从山顶下来,
and where not to to go is that correct
哪里不能去,对吗?
correct now you were explaining how the
现在你正在解释
man whom you've identified appeared to
你确认的那个男人似乎
be slipping is that right yes he
在滑倒,对吗?是的,他
appeared to be losing balance and I
似乎失去了平衡,我
think you used the description of him as
认为你用他
being very panicked correct I take it
非常恐慌的描述来描述他,对吗? 认为
that was the impression you gained of
这就是你对
his uh situation is that correct yes
他的情况的印象,对吗?是的,
correct thank you very
非常感谢您
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much the starting point for any defense
in a case is the instructions you have
案件中任何辩护的起点都是你
from the accused so the accused says I
从被告那里得到的指示,所以被告说我
didn't commit this crime here's the
没有犯下 这个罪行是这样的,
circumstances can you defend
你能为
me accused persons deserve the best
我辩护吗?被告应该得到
representation that the law can provide
法律所能提供的最好的辩护,
and you give every case everything
你对每一个案件都
you've got really that's the way I see
尽了最大的努力,我真的是这样认为的,
it
this is my favorite one
这是我最喜欢的一个
FIA remember she just had a bath and uh
FIA 记得她刚洗完澡 呃,
she's just
她总是
so giggly and
笑得很
happy it's so
开心,这很
natural the life I had that it's gone
自然,我曾经拥有的生活已经一去不复返了
it's
一切都
finished suppos he was our life she's
结束了,假设他是我们的生活,她是
our world our
我们的世界,我们的
everything sorry I can't do
一切,对不起,我不能再做
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anymore
F he was an angel on
F,他是地球上的天使,
Earth me and my husband could have asked
我和我的丈夫本可以要求
to a b
一个b
baby she attracted attention wherever
宝宝,她无论在哪里都会引起人们的注意
she went you know anybody that come to
你知道,任何来到
the door she' go running and just start
门口的人,她都会跑过去和
chatting to them so extrovert so
他们聊天,她性格
outgoing everybody just fell in love
外向,每个人都爱上了
with
her
她,
and at the age of eight she wanted to
八岁时,她想
become a
成为一名
lawyer she stood for fairness and
律师,她代表公平和
Justice even at that age you could just
正义,即使在 在那个年龄,你就能
tell she'd always said to me m m in
听出她总是对我说 m m 在
Punjabi it means Uncle she's always in M
旁遮普语中,它的意思是叔叔,她总是用 M
how are
you Yasmine invested all her hard work
你好吗 Yasmine 把她所有的辛勤工作都投入到了
in FIA and FIA was the only one in the
FIA 中,而 FIA 是家里唯一一个
family to be educated privately he has
接受私人教育的人 他给
me was probably around £5 an hour and
我的学费大概是每小时 5 英镑,而
she used to pay like 20 an hour for
她以前上私人课程要每小时 20 英镑,
private
tuition remember the graduation day she
记得毕业那天她
was saying to me that I'm going to
对我说,我要
become a lawyer I to make you very proud
成为一名律师,我要让你感到非常自豪,
now was like the happiest time of my
现在就像 见到她是我一生中最幸福的时刻
life seeing her you know doing
你知道
well on a boat right now it's not
现在在船上做得很好虽然不是
setting off but I think we're all
出发但我想我们都
feeling scared
感到害怕
my we did a lot of things together
我们一起做了很多事情一起吃
lunches together holidays
午餐一起度假
together she took us to places that I
她带我们去了我做梦也
would never have ever dreamt of
想不到的地方
going oh that's like cute if only
哦,那太可爱了,如果只有
Tuesday your
星期二,你的
Wednesday oh my God the water is so cold
星期三哦天哪,水太冷了
it wasn't a question of mother and
这不是母女的问题,
daughter they were best friends they
她们是最好的朋友,她们
were very
close just breaks my heart when I say
亲密,当我说这些的时候我的心都碎了
that it's no
这种事
longer going to happen
不会再发生了
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anymore yes have a good who's next
的,
please my Lord the next witness is
请问下一个是谁,大人,下一个证人是
number five on the crown list nigat
皇室名单上的第五位证人,尼加特·
Yasmin
亚斯明,
it it's going to be very painful for my
这对我妹妹来说会非常痛苦,
sister to give evidence but she's very
但她非常
brave and we know she's going to do this
勇敢,我们 知道她会这么做的
Foria would you say these words back to
Foria 你能把这些话重复给
me please yes sure I solemnly sincerely
我吗 是的 当然 我庄严地、真诚
and truly I
地、真实地、庄严
solemnly truly and sincerely declare and
地、真诚地声明并
affirm declare and affirm the that I
确认 声明并确认 我
will tell the truth that I will tell the
会说实话 我会说
truth the whole truth the whole truth
实话 全部的事实 全部真相
and nothing but the truth and nothing
只有事实,只有
but the truth thank you very much yes
事实,非常感谢是的,祝你
have a good day P thank
有美好的一天P谢谢
you now are you nihat Yasmin Javed more
你现在你是nihat Yasmin Javed更
commonly known as Yasmin that's ja yes
广为人知的名字是Yasmin那是ja是的,
and did you have a daughter
你有一个女儿
Foria yes that's right
Foria是的,没错,是的,
yeah were you close to your daughter
你们亲近吗 和你的女儿
very close she was an only
很亲近,她是
child what was her occupation she was a
独生女,她的职业是什么,她是一名
solicitor employment law employment
律师,劳动法,劳动
law did she form a relationship with a
法,她和一个
man called Kashif anir that's right yes
叫Kashif anir的男人建立了关系,对,是的,
and do you recognize him yeah just point
你认识他吗,是的,请指着
to him please you've pointed to the man
他,你已经 指着
in the do between the two security
两名保安
officers tell us how that relationship
人员之间的那名男子告诉我们这种关系是如何
came about when the accused was working
产生的,当时被告是
as a optical assistant in leads I went
一名光学助理,我
in there to
去那里
purchase some glasses accompanied by
买了一些眼镜,还有
Folia so it was like friendly chitchat
Folia,所以就像友好的闲聊一样,
and then um fosy worked in the city
然后嗯 fosy 在
center and they bumped into each other
市中心工作,有一天他们偶然相遇
one day and he actually said to her look
,他居然对她说,看,
um this is the type of girl I want to
这就是我想娶的那种女孩
marry
don't do that way cash when I met him he
不要那样做 cash 当我遇到他时,他
was very very
非常非常 我
confident
相信
he came across as a very caring young
他是一个非常有爱心的
person very
年轻人,非常
genuine I'm bra my she fre dor antie she
真诚,我 bra my she fre dor antie she
do fall
do fall in
in F was a practicing Muslim and Faith
F 是一名虔诚的穆斯林,信仰
was important to him as
对他来说很重要
well
嗯
they seemed really happy
他们在一起看起来很开心
together he told her that she had
他告诉她,她拥有
everything that he was looking for in a
他所拥有的一切 寻找一位
wife beautiful independent
美丽独立的妻子
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intelligent
聪明的
he said he wanted to be a very good
他说他想成为一个非常好的
husband to
丈夫
FIA FIA was happy with him me and my
FIA FIA 对他很满意,我和我的
husband were happy with him you know
丈夫对他很满意,你知道
there was no reason to think
没有理由认为
otherwise did Fus view of the
不是这样吗 Fus
relationship
关系
change um the accused seemed a bit
变化的观点嗯,被告似乎有点
um
possessive um a bit of a hot
占有欲嗯有点
temper did you ever see any example of a
暴躁你见过暴躁的例子吗是的,
hot temper yeah we were on the way to
我们在
get the Rings we got into the car we all
去拿戒指的路上,我们上了车,我们都
had our seat belts on apart from the
坐在了座位上 除了被告之外
accused and Folia told him to put his uh
,Folia 告诉他系好
seat belt on and he refused F said to
安全带,但他拒绝了。F 对
him look I could get into trouble and he
他说,看,我可能会惹上麻烦,他
just snapped he got really really angry
突然发怒,他非常非常生气,
shouting and swearing and
大喊大叫,咒骂,
screaming it was something that I'd
尖叫,这是我的
never seen before it was an extreme
从未见过,这是一种极端的
reaction but he was very very apologetic
反应,但他非常 非常抱歉,
he apologized to me he apologized to
他向我道歉,他向
foosia he told me that he was stressed
foosia 道歉,他告诉我他
out with his
studying and I believed him
学习压力很大,我相信他
there was something about him that was
他身上有某种东西在
booking me there was just something
吸引我,他身上有某种东西
about him that I didn't
是我不知道的
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like
就像
when I first met him I was speaking to
我第一次见到他的时候,我在跟
his father introducing myself and then
他父亲介绍我自己,然后
he's just cutting it goes off forg my
他就突然打断我
father and he spoke over me and I didn't
父亲的话,他打断了我的话,我不
喜欢
that his Cockiness and his arrogance po
他的自大和傲慢,这让
me off straight
我很生气
away she was like a a Bentley
她就像是一辆宾利
Continental one of my favorite cars now
欧陆,现在我最喜欢的车之一,
and he he was like a Nissa
他就像是
mic but FIA was happy with him FIA made
尼萨麦克,但国际汽联对他很满意,国际汽联做出了
her choice and I had to accept
选择,我不得不接受
that look at
这一点,看着
me and even if you want to come around a
我,即使你想回心转意
little bit more right around here yeah
一点 在这里再多一点,
yeah and then just place it across right
是的,然后把它放在对面,是
yeah
smile it was an AB
微笑,这是一个 AB
absolutely stunning beautiful bride you
绝对令人惊艳的美丽新娘,你
sure look nice yes baby Mar sh
看起来真漂亮,是的,宝贝 Mar,
look when FIA married him at the mosque
当 FIA 在清真寺嫁给他时,
FIA was very
FIA 非常
happy in our culture the girl always
在我们的文化中感到高兴 女孩总是
goes to the boy side of the family so
去 对于男孩一方的家庭来说,
after the ceremony he would live with
仪式结束后,他会和
his parents and her
他的父母以及她的
husband he and his parents had actually
丈夫住在一起,他和他的父母实际上已经
come to our house and I made it
来到我们家,我
absolutely crystal clear that fosa could
非常清楚地表明,福萨可以
do the basics but she wasn't going to be
做基本的事情,但她没有。 不会
doing housework and cooking all day
整天做家务和做饭,
because she was a career woman she was a
因为她是一名职业女性,她是一名
lawyer she wasn't a housewife put it
律师,她不是家庭主妇,
that way and the Absol absolutely fine
这么说吧,Absol 完全同意他们
with that all three of them saw FIA went
三个人都看到了 FIA 去和
to live with
[音乐] 一起生活
them so I first met FIA in 2018 when I
所以我在 2018 年刚加入公司时第一次见到 FIA,
first joined the firm and we just
我们
clicked sometimes during a lunch break
有时会在午休时间
with uh graub bub tea that was our thing
喝着 Graub Bub Tea 聊天,这是我们的爱好,
we used to grab bubble tea and go to a
我们过去常常喝着珍珠奶茶去
park she was very charismatic it was
公园,她很有魅力,
absolutely impossible for you to not to
绝对 你不可能不爱
love
her stay that second do that again you
她,那就再来一次吧,
because of the covid restrictions not
因为疫情限制,
many people from work could be invited
很多同事不能被邀请
to the wedding so FIA texted me a few
参加婚礼,所以 FIA
days after the ceremony actually
在仪式真正结束几天后才给我发短信,
happened hello my little ingredient just
你好,我的小成分只是
wanted to drop you a quick message to
想 给你发个信息
say I got married last last week
说我上周结婚了
um um and I told her congratulations and
我向她表示祝贺,
she replied thank you hopefully we can
她回复说谢谢,希望我们能
celebrate
soon she sent me some photographs from
尽快庆祝。她给我发了一些
from the
wedding I remember I told her that she
婚礼照片,我记得我告诉她,她
looked
看起来很
beautiful the next time we saw each
漂亮。我们下次见面
other was was in a shopping center and
是在一个购物中心,
we went for bubble
我们去了 珍珠
tea she never talked about kashi's
奶茶她从来没有谈论过卡西的
parents but one thing I did find strange
父母,但有一件事我觉得很奇怪,那就是
was um every time she would refer to
每次她提到
them she would she would say the people
他们的时候,她都会说我和他们
I live
住在一起的人
with she was taking a lot of pictures
她比平时拍了很多照片,
more than usual and it sort of gave me
这有点 给我的
the impression she was sending them to
印象是她把它们寄给了
somebody Kashi called at some point and
某个 Kashi 打电话的人,
he asked FIA if we wanted to go for
他问 FIA 我们是否想去吃
pizza um and then she said no I don't
披萨,然后她说不,我不
think Ingrid's hungry um and that was
认为 Ingrid 饿了,嗯,这就是
it so far as you're aware was FIA
迄今为止的 [音乐] 正如你所知,FIA
someone who would use social media yes
会使用社交媒体吗?是的,她确实会使用社交媒体,
she did yes did her use of social media
change at all while in the relationship
在
with Mr anoir yeah in what way um she
与阿诺尔先生交往期间,她对社交媒体的使用有没有改变?是的,以何种方式?嗯,她
deactivated her Facebook account why was
停用了 Facebook 账户,为什么?
that because the accused said to her
因为被告说 告诉她
that I'm I'm not on Facebook and it'll
我不玩 Facebook,
be good to just concentrate on the
把精力集中在
marriage rather than being on social
婚姻上而不是社交
media and she took that on board yeah
媒体上,她接受了这一点,是的,
were you aware of FIA having blocked any
你知道 FIA 屏蔽了
family members or friends from social
社交媒体上的任何家庭成员或朋友吗?
media FIA hadn't but the accused had got
FIA 没有,但被告
into her phone and started uh blocking
进入了她的手机并开始屏蔽
male members of the family did she ever
男性成员 她有没有
tell you anything about money having
告诉过你
been transferred from her account she
关于她的账户被转走钱的事情?
did she said that the accused one day
她说过,有一天,被告趁
while she was asleep logged into her
她睡觉的时候,登录了她的
bank account online and withdrew
银行账户,取出了
12,000 and put it into his
12,000 美元,存入了他的
account
账户,
were you aware of telephone calls from
你知道电话
Mr anoir to your daughter yes I
阿诺尔先生给你女儿打电话 是的,我
overheard phone
无意中听到了电话
conversations so this is her room yeah
对话 所以这是她的房间 是的,是
yeah and have you changed much
的,是的,你有没有改变很多
no
没有
I remember it was Ramadan and she'd come
我记得那是斋月,她会
back home to stay with
回家和
[音乐] 住在一起
us she was upstairs in her room and I
她在楼上她的房间里,我
could hear his voice on that phone call
能听到他在电话里的声音,
and I was just besides
我当时除了
myself I'm going to play a recording
自己之外,我要播放一段录音,
which is Crown label eight which are
这是皇冠唱片公司第八张唱片,是 2021 年
calls recorded on the 30th of April
4 月 30 日录制的电话
2021
my Lord the first call is Crown
我的 领主第一个呼唤的是皇冠
production
生产
103 in terms of moving forward what are
103 就未来而言
you going to do are you going to come
你打算做什么你
back tomorrow like I've told you to I
明天会回来吗,就像我告诉你的那样我
don't have the answer to that this is
没有答案这是
the last time I'm going to call you by
我最后一次给你打电话顺便说一句
the way and if you don't come back
如果你明天不回来,
tomorrow I'm not going to bother with
我就不会打扰
you be very blunt about that Mom and Dad
你,直截了当地说,妈妈和爸爸
want that anyway they want you out of my
想要这样,无论如何,他们希望你离开我的
life so they can get the little for you
人生,这样他们就可以为你
back little back that's what you I'm not
找回小东西,这就是你 我
coming back tomorrow you're not coming
明天不会回来你
back tomorrow I'm not coming back
明天不会回来我明天不会回来
tomorrow all who the who the [\h__\h] you
你他妈的
think you are why you wearing at me
以为你是谁你为什么又对我发火
again you are incapable of Chang who are
你无能为力张你是
you listen to me I'm not going to call
谁听我说我' 我不会
you again that's fine you said that I
再给你打电话了没关系你说我
heard that loud and clear no no I'm not
听得很清楚不不不我
going to no genuinely you might block me
不会不真的你也可以屏蔽我
as well barding you now me delete all
现在屏蔽我删除所有的
the wedding delete everything that's
婚礼删除所有
fine that's fine
没关系没关系
because that's what you that's what you
因为那是 你就是这样的
are disase in everyone's life the soon
每个人生命中都有这样的疾病
you're dead or the sooner you're out my
你死得越快 你离开我的
life it'll be
生活这样会
better you're a disease in everyone's
更好 你是每个人生命中的一种疾病
life the sooner you're dead or the
你越早死或者
sooner you're out of my life it'll be
你越早离开我的生活这样会
better what was fia's reaction to that
更好 国际汽联对这种评论的反应是什么
sort of comment upset extremely
upset the next start also on the same
沮丧,下一次开始也在同
day this time it is Crown production 25
一天,这次是皇冠制作 25,
please do I not have a say in how I want
请问我对我想要的生活没有发言权
my life with you no you can't with what
吗,不,你不能
with what you're married now yeah but
和你结婚了,是的,但是
can I not have a say can I not have an
我可以吗 没有发言权我不能有
opinion you're being a [\h__\h] when I told
意见你是个婊子当我告诉
you your husband told you come back
你你的丈夫告诉你
tomorrow why the [\h__\h] are you not
明天回来你他妈的为什么不
listening look at how you speaking to me
听看你是怎么跟我说话的
how are you going to you are you've been
你打算怎么你' 我被
told to come back tomor how are
告知明天再来,
youh I'm saying that you can't accept
你好吗?我是说你不能接受
that you have a problem and that you
你有问题,你
need to change I will genuinely P out
需要改变,我会真诚地告诉你
that I need help you got that stop Cash
我需要帮助你,停止
Cash listen listen listen I'm telling
现金现金听听听我 我告诉
you with your husband you're coming back
你,你和你丈夫明天会回来,
tomorrow get yourself back here tomorrow
明天就回来,
like I've said stop challenging me cuz
就像我说的,别再挑战我了,因为
you're not going to get anywhere in life
你不会去的 在生活中取得任何成就,
you she challenged me especially with
她都向我提出挑战,特别是
this you know you know who do you think
这个,你知道你知道你以为
you are you're not a man start behaving
你是谁,你不是一个男人,开始表现
like a woman you not be that British
得像一个女人,你不是那个英国
woman I'm telling you now it's not going
女人,我现在告诉你,这是
to work you're come in back tomorrow cuz
行不通的 你明天再来,因为
you were told
她告诉
her how you're a horrible person if you
你你是个多么可怕的人,如果你
love someone you don't treat them the
爱一个人,你就不会用
way that you do you don't make them feel
你的方式对待他们,你不会让他们感受到
the way that you make me feel of you
你让我感受到的那种感觉
with me I was very dominant and I Chang
和我在一起时我非常占主导地位,我有
one single day the [\h__\h] did you decide
一天,你他妈的决定
to Ru my [\h__\h] life you ruined my life
毁了我的生活,你毁了我的生活,
I'll tell you one I'll tell you one I
我会告诉你一个,我会告诉你一个,如果
you end this and I will ruin yours yeah
你结束这一切,我就会毁了你的,是的,
you've already said that to me so many
你' 我已经对我说过很多
times I mean it
次了,我是认真的
thank you that might be a suitable point
谢谢你,这可能是一个合适的点
to break me Lord yeah so can I ask you
来打破我,上帝,是的,所以我可以请你
please to return for quarter to two
在两点一刻回来吗,
please thank you very
非常感谢你
much playing the recordings this is not
播放录音,这是 不是
about tugging emotional strengths
关于拉扯情感力量
court is about the way in which he spoke
法庭是关于他
to her which demonstrates what I will
对她说话的方式,这表明我将
suggest as a controlling and coercive
建议作为一种控制和强制性的
course of
课程
conduct hearing of her voice and hearing
听到她的声音,听到
of her breakdown in the recordings and
她在录音中的崩溃,
that's just awful she didn't deserve any
这真是太可怕了,她不值得经历
of this really sad to see what Falls you
这些,看到你经历的一切真的很难过,
went
through no
没有,
by the time FIA was 2 3 years old I was
当 FIA 2 岁 3 岁时,我 她
an early teenager I used to babysit FIA
十几岁的时候,
a lot when her parents were working she
当她的父母工作的时候,我经常照顾她,她
used to come here play with us in the
经常来这里和我们在
back
street used to play with the toys used
后街玩,玩玩具,
to hold the hand walk around the garden
牵着她的手,在花园里散步,
a lots of happy memories here
这里有很多快乐的回忆
。 音乐] 过去
used to hold on to my little finger un
常常握住我的小手指,
color want some
颜色想要一些
sweets so we'd go there and do it you
糖果,所以我们会去那里做,你
know F was uh big part of the big part
知道 F 是社区的重要组成部分,
of the
community I weren't aware of the of the
我不知道
details that are emerging it's a big
细节 出现这对我们来说是一个巨大的
shot
big shock to
冲击,
us it's really upsetting that we weren't
我们当时没有在那里做任何事情,这真的很令人沮丧,
there to do anything cuz we we didn't
因为我们不
know it was
知道
happening I remember for sent me a text
发生了什么,我记得她结婚后给我发了一条
message after she got married she wrote
短信,她写道,
slams I hope you're well inshallah I
我 希望你一切都好,我
just wanted to say thank you very much
只是想说非常感谢
for the wedding money and then I wrote
为了婚礼的钱,然后我
back the next day waum Salam I hope
第二天就回信了,waum Salam,我希望
you're well and settling down with your
你一切都好,和你的
new family remember life never goes
新家庭安顿下来,记住生活从来都不是
according to plan it's like a roller
按照计划进行的,就像过山车一样,
coaster don't be coming home and
不要回家
mourning about little things to your mom
为小事而悲伤 对你的
and dad instead work at your marriage
父母来说,你应该为你的婚姻而努力
and give and take and compromise but I
,互相给予、接受和妥协,但我
want you to remember one
希望你记住一
thing
件事,
until until my last day of life your m
直到我生命的最后一天,你的母亲
is and will be always here for
会永远在这里陪着
you I blame
你,我责怪
myself for writing that thing do coming
自己写了那件事
home for other things maybe that was
回家做其他事情也许这就是
what stopped her from telling
她现在没有告诉我
[音乐]的原因,
me
now will there be questions Mr D
会不会有问题,D先生,
good Mrs javard I just have a few
好的,javard夫人,我只有几个
questions for you would I be right in
问题要问你,我
thinking that after the calls which we
认为在我们听到电话后
heard she went back to live with her
她就回去了 和她的
husband cashif anoir is that right
丈夫 cashif anoir 一起生活,对吗?
that's right and when it got to the
对吗?当
visit to Edinburgh do you know what it
谈到去爱丁堡时,你知道他们的
was intended for just a break to get
目的是什么吗?他们只是想休息一下,
away were they hoping that perhaps their
是不是希望
relationship would be improved after the
休息后他们的关系会有所改善?
break there was no um mention of that
没有提到那个
whatsoever did you realize that they'd
你知道他们已经
come up stayed in a hotel um taken a day
出现了吗 住在一家酒店,嗯,去
trip to a place called Loch Ness
尼斯湖一日游。
是的,
and did she say anything about the trip
她有没有说这次旅行,
she just says it was very
她只是说
tiring jackets are stored did she say
很累,夹克被存放起来了,她有
anything about having enjoyed the trip
没有说喜欢这次旅行
or not you know since this horrific
,你知道吗 自从这次可怕的
incident I can't recall a lot of
事件发生后,我记不起很多
information
信息
okay did you find out that they had
了,你有没有发现他们已经
booked to go for afternoon tea at the
预订了去
Bal moral Hotel yeah I knew that so did
Bal moral 酒店喝下午茶,是的,我知道,所以
it ever cross your mind that their trip
你有没有想过他们
to Edinburgh might be some kind of
去爱丁堡的旅行可能是
effort on each of their parts to try and
双方都做出了某种努力,试图解决彼此之间的
sort out their differences and go ahead
分歧,继续
as a married couple did that ever cross
以夫妻的身份生活,你有没有想过这一点?
your mind no it certainly wasn't the
不,这肯定不是
intention of Folia I can't say for the
Folia 的本意,我不能代表被告说,
accused but definitely not Folia so the
但肯定不是 Folia,所以,
fact that if they had a good time in
如果他们在彼此的陪伴下度过了愉快的时光,并
each other's company visited various
参观了不同的
locations does that surprise you the
地方,这会让你感到惊讶吗?
words that F used to me were I'm buying
F 对我说的话是“我在购买
my time I know what I'm doing so she was
我的时间,我知道自己在做什么”,所以她
putting on a front doing what she had to
装出一副假装的样子 她做了她必须
do to leave the
做的事情来离开
accused but I I saw that you gave a very
被告,但我看到你给了一个很
long interview or a very long statement
长的采访或很长的声明
to the police on the 8th of September
2021 so 5 days after you heard about her
2021 年 9 月 8 日,也就是你得知她去世 5 天后的
death on the third yeah is there a
第 3 天,
reason why you hadn't mentioned to the
你为什么没有向警方透露
police that you'd spoken with with your
你已经和你
daughter and that was going to be her
女儿谈过了,而那将是她的
intention well bear in mind I just had
意图很好,请记住,我刚刚听到
the shocking devastating news that I've
一个令人震惊的毁灭性消息,我
lost my only child in horrific
在可怕的情况下失去了我唯一的孩子,
circumstances so my head was all over
所以我的脑子一片
the place and you putting that to me I
混乱,你告诉我,我
can't even
甚至不
remember whether I said that or not well
记得我是否说过这句话
please don't think I want to put you at
请不要以为我想让你处于
any kind of disadvantage but there is a
任何不利地位,但当时你所说的话有
something like a 23 pages of written
大约 23 页的书面
script of what you had said at that time
脚本,
and it just occurred to me that nothing
我突然想到你没有
like that was mentioned to the
向
police that would be of some
警方提及过这些事情 那会
significance though wouldn't it that
很有意义,但不是吗?
after what was intended to be a break
that she was going to leave him my head
她打算离开他之后,我的脑子
was all over the place I fainted twice
一片混乱,
after giving that statement so I can't
在说完这句话之后,我晕了两次,所以我不
remember what I said so it comes as a
记得我说了什么 所以
bit of a surprise you putting that
你问
question to me I thought I had said
了我这个问题我有点惊讶我以为我已经说过了
it thank you very
非常感谢对吧
much right uh you're free to go thank
呃 你可以自由地去,
you very much thank you so
非常感谢,非常感谢,
much if the public Galler is full of
如果公众画廊里挤满了
relatives of course you're conscious of
亲戚,当然你意识到了
that but it doesn't change anything for
这一点,但这对你来说没有任何改变,
you as a defense Council the people in
作为辩护委员会,画廊里的人
the gallery may not like the inquiry
可能不会 就像
that's being made but you can't ever
正在进行的询问,但你永远不能
think I can't ask that question that
认为我不能问那个
wouldn't ever
永远不会
happen so we'll stop there for today uh
发生的问题,所以我们今天就到此为止呃
can I ask you please to be back 410
我可以请你明天回来410到
tomorrow see you then thank
那时见谢谢
[ 音乐]
you it was tough um it feels like a blur
你这很难,嗯,感觉像一片模糊,
yeah I can't even remember my
是的,我甚至不记得我的
responses did what I had to do
回答,做了我必须做的事
she obviously found some things
她显然发现有些事情
difficult to remember but that's
很难记住,但
understandable to stand on a witness box
站在证人席上
and then face a jury lawyers and then
然后面对 陪审团律师,然后
you add the grief of the case itself
你加上案件本身的悲痛,
that took great
这需要很大的
courage but you never know what view the
勇气,但你永远不知道陪审团会持什么观点。
jury
take
Yasmin Javit seen here on the left said
Yasmin Javit(左边)说,
she started to worry about her daughter
她开始担心女儿
FIA a few months after she married
FIA,几个月后她 嫁给
Kashif anoir she told her son-in-law's
卡什夫·阿诺尔,她告诉她女婿的
murder trial he'd been abusive in the
谋杀案审判他在高等法院虐待了
high court of justi court number one his
Majesty's Advocate against Kashif anir
卡什夫国王陛下的辩护律师,对卡什夫一世的
court number
法庭
one the members of the Judy have heard
一号朱迪的成员已经听取了
evidence from fia's mother about the
fia母亲关于
nature of the abusive relationship
虐待关系性质的证据,
cour however the jury cannot convict on
然而陪审团
that evidence alone have a good day you
仅凭这些证据不能定罪,祝你有美好的一天,
thank you my Lord the next witness is
谢谢你,大人,下一位证人是
police Constable Sarah
警官莎拉·
Joyce I want to show the jury
乔伊斯,我想向陪审团出示
independent
独立
evidence this is someone who has no
证据,此人
connection to the accused or the family
与被告或家人没有任何关系,
and that is capable of supporting the
并且能够支持
evidence on Friday the 30th of April
证据是2012年4月30日星期五,
20121 were you requested to attend at a
你被要求在
location at 2139 hours that day yes and
当天21点39分到达某个地点,是
what what was the nature of that work um
的,那项工作的性质是什么,嗯,
it was a priority call um from um a
这是受害者母亲打来的优先电话,
victim's mom stating that her daughter
说她的女儿
had come to stay with her away from her
已经来了 和她呆在一起,远离她的
husband and that there was controlling
丈夫,而且有控制
and coercive Behavior happening would I
和胁迫行为发生,我
be right in saying that your body camera
说得对吗?你的随身摄像机
recorded all of that is that it did
记录了所有这一切,是的,
yes hi you're right good yeah very well
你说得对,很好,很好
thank you you're right if we sit down
谢谢你,你说得对,如果我们坐下来,
yeah of course thanks very much um so I
是的,当然,非常感谢,嗯,所以我
think your mom called us um just with
认为你妈妈打电话给我们,嗯,只是
regards to is it a husband yeah yeah
关于它是一个丈夫,是的,
right okay what what's gone on oh um
好吧,发生了什么事,哦,嗯,
first of all we definitely not going to
首先,我们绝对不会去
find out is it it's up to you whether
找出答案,这取决于你是否
you say look I just want to report this
说,看,我只是想报告这件事
and I don't want police to take action
,我不希望警察采取行动,
yeah I think just would like Cas yeah
是的,我想只是希望 Cas
know something happen in the future okay
知道将来会发生什么,好吧,
so is this the first time like you've
这是第一次吗 就像你
come to moms and you've gone actually I
来过妈妈那里,然后你走了,实际上我
need a bit of time to think okay how
需要一点时间去思考,好吧,
long have you guys been
你们在一起多久了,
together four months okay well if it's
四个月,好吧,如果它
not working it's not working
不起作用,那就不起作用,
okay um has has he ever has he ever
好吧,嗯,他有没有被
assaulted you he ever laid a hand on you
攻击过 他有没有对你动过手,
or any I mean in terms of like like yeah
或者任何我的意思,就像是,
he has like I think like the pillows up
他有,我想就像枕头放在
on my face and he's like using like like
我的脸上,他就像用像
fit and that told me
适合,这告诉我,
that but like but obviously I had the
但就像但显然我有
pillow though so it was all impacting me
枕头 不过,这一切都对我产生了影响,
in the in the same
as face so quite right so he got a
就像脸一样,所以他用
pillow over your face yeah the pillow
枕头捂住了你的脸,是的 枕头,
yeah put your face
是的,放在你的脸,
yeah can I just say somebody putting a
是的,我只能说,有人把
pillow of your face is one thing someone
枕头放在你的脸是一回事,
then punching that pillow is another
然后有人打那个枕头是另一
thing doesn't matter who's done it
回事,不管是谁做的,
that's an assault however because it's
这都是攻击,因为那是
your husband that's domestic assault and
你的丈夫,这是家庭暴力,
you know I I think we're both sat here
你知道 我认为我们都坐在这里
say that is definitely not acceptable
说这绝对是不可接受的
you know what he's saying to her you're
你知道他对她说了什么你
never going to leave me I'm never going
永远不会离开我我永远不会和
to divorce you I'm going to finish you
你离婚我要完成你
SC
SC
you did FIA want any police action to be
你做了 FIA 想要任何 这次警方将
taken on this occasion no she just
采取行动,不,她只是
wanted it logged thank you very
想记录下来,非常感谢
much Mr D
D先生,
good I just wanted to clarify the last
很好,我只是想澄清
matter you were asked so she wanted the
你被问到的最后一件事,所以她想让
police to um log the information into
警方将信息记录到
some kind of system is that right yes
某种系统中,对吗 是的,
well to be exact it was her mother who
确切地说,是她的母亲
had made the call to the police is that
打电话给警察的,对吗?
right correct and I think your mother
我认为你母亲
had some contributions to what was being
对你说的话也有一些贡献,
said to you as well is that so I think a
所以我认为有
few yes okay but when it came to the end
几个,是的,好的,但是当它 在
of the process she had signed to say
程序结束时她签署了声明,表示
that she didn't want a prosecution to
她不希望被起诉,
follow is that right
对吗?是的,
yes as a defense lawyer so you're not
作为辩护 律师,所以你不会
always standing up to cross-examine a
总是站起来盘问
witness to undermine them thank you very
证人来削弱他们的权威,非常感谢,
much sometimes you want the information
有时你想要
that the prosecution witness has given
检方证人提供的信息,
you want it and you want to emphasize it
你想要它,你想强调它,
the prosecutor might think it has no
检察官可能会认为它没有
relevance at all but you want the jury
相关性 完全没有,但你希望陪审团
to have a part of that in the Forefront
of their
他们的
minds kashiv has always been a good lad
头脑中占据一部分,kashiv 一直是个好小伙子,
I've known Kashi to be very outspoken
我知道 kashi 非常直言不讳,
very loud uh but as outspoken and loud
非常大声,但 kash 直言不讳,大声说话,
Kash is is how humble and doubt Kashif
就是这样 谦虚和怀疑卡什夫的
is Kash did have issues within his
marriage but those issues when you have
婚姻确实存在问题,但这些问题是当你有
two people of strong character bearing
两个性格坚强的人时,请
mind she was a siit uh so she had a
记住她是一个 siit,所以她有
strong opinion so it wasn't very easy
很强的意见,所以
for them to actually get along with each
他们实际上并不容易相处 就
other in regards to the evidence that's
actually been produced it's all about uh
实际出示的证据而言,这都是关于
marital issues having ups and downs and
婚姻问题的起起伏伏,而
the question which the prosecution
检方
hasn't actually put forward is did the
实际上没有提出的问题是,
murder actually take place rather than
谋杀是否真的发生了,而不是
all the focus has been on kashif's
所有的 焦点一直集中在卡什夫的
character um but his character doesn't
角色上,但是他的性格并不
suggest that he is able to do any
意味着他能够造成任何
physical harm yet to Le commit
身体伤害,但
murder after the police left I said to
在警察离开后,我对
FIA look just leave him come home that's
FIA 说,看,让他回家吧,这就是
all I wanted her to
我想要的
do but FIA wanted to get the money back
但 FIA 想要拿回
that he'd stolen from
他从
her so she went back to
她那里偷走的钱,所以她回到了
him at that time she was very very
他身边。当时
cautious as to what she was telling us
她对她告诉我们的事情非常谨慎
and could tell she was holding stuff
,可以看出她在隐瞒一些事情
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hello how are you very well sir how you
你好,你好吗先生你
doing leave
好吗离开
[Laughter]
[笑声]
that's what you want to tell you Uncle
这就是你想告诉你的叔叔
congratulations oh come here man come
恭喜哦来这里伙计来
here come here come here come here come
这里来这里来这里来这里来
here come
这里
on you have an emotional it's fine it's
来吧你有一种情绪没关系
fine man I want to ATT
没关系伙计 我想 ATT
your she just says oh I've got something
你她只是说哦我有事
to tell you and she was really happy and
要告诉你,她真的很高兴,
she says I'm
她说我
pregnant and I was I I was really
怀孕了,我真的很
happy and when I huged
高兴,当我拥抱
her and did she feel that she was going
她时,她有没有感觉到她会
to try and make a go of it at that point
尝试在那时尝试一下
and I
, 我
guess that was the
想情况就是这样,
case
yeah but I me and my husband could tell
是的,但我和我丈夫可以看出
that things were not
事情不对劲,
right
yes have a good who's next please the
是的,请问下一位证人是谁,
next witness is Crown witness number
下一位证人是 2021 年
seven on the 23rd of August
8 月 23 日的第七号皇家证人,
2021 were you within the antio ward at
您是否在领导将军的安蒂奥病房内
leads General infirmary yes I was were
医务室是的,
you aware of the lady in the bed next to
你知道你旁边那位女士
you having visitors her husband yeah
有访客吗?她的丈夫是的,
husband right do you recall hearing a
丈夫,你还记得听到过
conversation at all I did tell us about
谈话吗?我确实告诉过我们这件事,
that please um so it was uh when the
嗯,所以当
midwives were all on the changeover so
助产士都在的时候 换岗期间,
there was not really many staff around
周围没有太多工作人员
and I could hear him repeatedly calling
,我能听到他反复骂
her a [\h__\h] and um repeatedly saying
她是婊子,呃,反复说
that he should never have married her he
他不应该娶她,他
wished he'd never married her and that
希望他从来没有娶过她,
if if one of them died during child
如果他们中的一个在分娩时死亡
birth that would be
good if one of them died that would be
如果其中一个人死了就好了,是
good yeah that would be good because
的,那会很好,因为
they would be free of one
他们会彼此解脱,
another he said that she brought out the
他说她激发了
side of
him I was really scared everybody within
他的一面,我真的很害怕病房里的每个人都在
that
Ward was there because they were
那里,因为他们
pregnant everyone was there in a
怀孕了,每个人 那里很
vulnerable place and I was really really
危险,我真的很
worried for her
担心她的
safety all right thank you very much
安全,非常感谢
still do good I have no questions for
做得很好,我对
this witness Bo thank you right that
这个证人没有问题了,博,谢谢你,对的,这
means you finished giving your evidence
意味着你提供了你的证据
and you're free to go thank you very
,你可以自由地走了,非常感谢
much Bo told us about the incident at
博告诉了我们关于医院发生的事情,
the hospital and I invited the parents
我邀请了父母
over to tell them what I'd gone on and I
过来 告诉他们我所做的事情,我
tried to discuss it with them but the
试图和他们讨论,但
father was more bothered about uh the
父亲更担心
police not getting
警察没有
involved FY said she hadn't contacted
介入,FY 说她没有联系
the police and he was thank goodness for
警察,他很感谢上帝,
that I've got my reputation to think
我得到了我的 声誉
about he wasn't bothered about F's
考虑他根本不关心F的
safety
安全
whatsoever
so I was thinking if I like this to us
所以我在想如果我喜欢我们这样
what must be like to fosy when she's on
当她独自一人时我会是什么样子
own I was in unknown
我处于未知的
territory out of my depth with it
领域超出了我的深度
all the police gave me some support
警察给了我 一些支持
numbers hello car Nana how can I help
号码你好,车娜娜,我能帮上什么忙
and K Nana was one of them so I
,K娜娜是其中之一,所以我
contacted them in May
在2020年5月联系了他们,
20201 I spoke about the parents and
我谈到了父母,
spoke about him the way they were
谈到了他们
behaving towards FIA and I was shocked
对国际汽联的态度,
when they actually turned around to me
当他们真的转过身来时,我感到震惊 我
and they went this is on a best
和他们去了这是最好的
abuse this was the log from the call and
虐待这是日志 从电话中
we has been Clos that fosier is
我们得知,fosier 正在
experiencing domestic abuse and that
遭受家庭虐待,
fia's husband is controlling and he's
fia 的丈夫控制欲很强,他
not allowing her to speak to her own
不允许她和自己的
family he's stolen her money and he
家人说话,他偷了她的钱,他
prevents her from looking good or going
不让她打扮得漂漂亮亮,也不让她去
to the
hairdresses from our perspective this
理发店。 这
was quite clearly on aase because the
显然是出于 aase,因为
abuse that she endured in that household
她在那个家庭中遭受的虐待
was for the purpose of upholding honor
是为了维护荣誉
FIA was told that you can't divorce um
FIA 被告知你不能离婚嗯
shame name was a prevalent factor and
羞耻的名字是一个普遍的因素,并且
foosia was expected to dress and behave
foosia 被期望
in a particular way which isn't how she
以特定的方式着装和行为 这与她
used to dress and behave prior to
在嫁入这个家庭之前的穿着和行为方式不同,
marrying into this family so quite
所以很
clearly there was an honor Dynamic that
明显,有一种荣誉动态
made it more difficult for FIA to get
使 FIA 更难获得
help and we provided support to
帮助,我们为 asmin 提供了支持。
asmin In some cultures there is a
在某些文化中,有一种
concept known as honor-based killing in
概念被称为 换句话说,荣誉谋杀
other words shame is brought on the
会给家人带来耻辱,
family and that death is seen as a
而死亡被视为
method of resolving that matter
解决此事的一种方法。
consideration was given in this case as
在本案中,曾考虑过
to whether an expert on the concept of
honor-based killing should give evidence
应该由荣誉谋杀概念专家提供证据,
but that's relevant for motive the crown
但这是相关的 因为动机王冠
never has to prove a
从来不需要证明
motive clearly the crown have got a job
动机显然,王室有一项工作,
which is to prove that he pushed fosy
那就是为了审判的目的,证明他把福西推
off Arthur's seat for the purposes of
下了亚瑟的座位。基于
the trial honor based abuse doesn't
荣誉的虐待
necessarily need to be used because you
不一定需要使用,因为你
don't want to risk confusing the jury
不想冒险混淆陪审团,
who might be unfamiliar with what honor
他们可能会 我不知道什么是荣誉
based abuse
虐待,
is I want to show the jury that the
我想向陪审团表明,
violence was escalating in its nature
just days before they traveled to
在他们前往
Edinburgh we have CCTV footage and I
爱丁堡的几天前,暴力事件的性质正在不断升级,我们有闭路电视录像,我
will also have a completely independent
也会有一个完全独立的
witness to the
证人见证这些
events
事件,
I'm going to put on the screen label
我将 在屏幕上标签
seven entitled CCTV Al coats
七题为 CCTV 艾尔·科茨
Road do you recognize that person the
路你认出那个人
lady yeah that's the lady yes it is
吗那位女士是的那是那位女士是的
[音乐] 是的
how was she the lady that you saw
她怎么样了你看到的那位女士
distressed she just broke down crying
心烦意乱她刚刚崩溃了哭泣
she she just cried um I did say to her
她她刚刚哭了嗯 我确实告诉她
to phone the police and she said no she
要打电话给警察,她说不,她
was go and get a car and go to my mom's
要去拿一辆车去我妈妈
house did another car appear on the
家,现场有没有出现另一辆车,
scene yeah it was a male that got out
是的,下车的是一名男子,
and she said oh no it's his dad that's
她说哦不,是他爸爸
come to take me I don't want to go I
来接我我不想 去吧,我
said you don't need to go I'll take you
说你不用去,我带你去
and she said no and she got in the car
,她说不用了,然后她上了车,她
and she
went all right thank you
走了,好的,谢谢。
I just found it very
我只是觉得这非常
emotional
令人
distressing
沮丧,是
yeah you've been so incredibly strong
的,你一直都很棒 坚强地
throughout this whole thing difficult
度过这整个困难的事情
yes I should just you know somehow
是的我应该只是你知道不知
bumped into it by coincidence and did
何故偶然撞到了它并
not find out then I would stick with the
没有发现然后我会坚持
light glue did you notice the the car
用光胶你注意到了那辆车
that came that was his dad so he knew
那是他爸爸所以他知道
you can't say he didn't know
你不能 说他什么都不知道
anything her mother she know they were
她的母亲她知道他们很
happy but she were involved in their
幸福,但她参与了他们的
things I never involved because I never
事情我从来没有参与,因为我从来没有
seen
看到
anything they were very happy very very
任何东西他们非常幸福非常
happy couple every family is up and down
幸福的夫妻每个家庭都是起起落落
they do talk aloud my son talks loud
他们确实大声说话 我儿子说话很大声,
they he talks loud they all same they
他也说话很大声,他们都一样,他们
walk very happy and she was with Kashif
走得很开心,她和卡什夫在一起,
if she wasn't happy and she was ending
如果她不开心,她就要结束
the relationship why did she came to
这段关系,为什么她要来
Scotland when she fell with me and wife
苏格兰,当她和我坠入爱河时,妻子
cried L she was our daughter not their
哭了,她是我们的 女儿不是他们的
daughter we believe when a girl comes to
女儿我们相信当一个女孩来到
your family she's your daughter my
你家她就是你的女儿我的
daughters are
女儿
married when engage she says kha I want
结婚时订婚她说我想要
a diamond ring you cost me
一枚钻戒你 花了我
6,300 I going back here from police she
6,300 美元我从警察那里回来她
was our daughter we still think that the
是我们的女儿我们仍然认为这个
family is thinking wrong but I'm not
家庭的想法是错误的但我没有
thinking all I said I nothing else to
想到我说的一切我没有什么可
say
说的
I'm after the incident where he was
我在他
trying to drag her into the car for he
试图把她拖进 汽车,他
said I'm going to leave
说我要离开
him his behavior was just absolutely
他,他的行为简直太
horrifying so she contacted divorce
可怕了,所以她联系了离婚
lawyer hi there I was wonder
律师,你好,我想知道
about we do have specialists in our
我们家庭团队中是否有专家
family team that can definely have a CH
可以
with you is it still a safe environment
与您一起进行 CH,这仍然是安全的
for you at home at the moment
目前你在家里的环境,
um um you take the time it's why it's
嗯嗯,你花点时间,这就是
why we want to just make sure that
为什么我们只想确保
you're okay are you currently just at
你没事,你现在在
work
工作吗,
out on a walk and what I'll do is I'm
出去散步,我会做的是,我
just going to put just a little bit in
只是 只想向大众透露一点,
the masses nobody knew what was going on
apart from F and me and her father we
除了 F 和我以及她父亲之外,没有人知道发生了什么,我们
were like once we get FIA safely home
就像一旦我们把 FIA 安全带回家,
we'll tell my family there's no need to
我们就会告诉我的家人,现在没有必要
tell anybody now cuz this could
告诉任何人,因为这可能
escalate I wanted fos it to come home
升级我想让它当时就回家,
then and there but there was a
但有一个
problem the perpetrator's family had
问题 肇事者的家人
organized a VMA party which is a wedding
组织了一场 VMA 派对,这是
party thrown by the groom
新郎方举办的婚礼派对,
side was all about putting other people
一切都是为了别人
first and she wanted to cause as minimal
着想,她想
damage as possible and she said let me
尽可能减少伤害,她说让我
get this over room done with and then
把这件事处理好,然后
I'm going to leave
我 我要离开
him fos had a smile on her face but me
他 fos 脸上带着微笑,但
being F's mother I could tell that she
作为 F 的母亲,我可以看出她
was very unhappy and she was putting her
非常不开心,她把她放在
on the
front
前面
after the bemma party they're going to
在他们要去的 bemma 派对之后 去
Edinburgh on a
爱丁堡
break obviously I didn't want fos to go
度假,显然我不想让 fos
to Edinburgh but she was
去爱丁堡,但她
adamant it was like I know what I'm
坚持说我知道自己在
doing I've got this
做什么,我有这个
Mom and she said in 5 days time I'll be
妈妈,她说 5 天后我会
back home for
回家了
good
the plan was that they were coming back
计划是他们
on the Saturday which was F's birthday
星期六回来,那天是 F 的生日,
and she was going to say to him I'm
她要对他说我
going to go home cuz my mom's got some
要回家,因为我妈妈给我买了一些
presents for me and then she wasn't
礼物,然后她没有
going to go
不会再回去了
that was the plan was was going to come
计划是
home and we were going to celebrate
回家,然后一起庆祝
together my Lord the next evidence was
大人,下一个证据是
given on commission that's the legal
在委员会上提供的,这是法律上的
name for it but all it is it's a
名称,但它只是一份
pre-trial recording of evidence
审前证据记录,
okay I'm going to lead evidence from an
好的,我 将从一名
American Tourist who was in the same
美国游客那里获得证据,该游客在亚瑟座位事件发生前
hotel as FIA and the accused the day
一天与 FIA 和被告住在同一家酒店,
before of the events on Arthur
seat please describe what you heard the
请描述你
uh evening of the 1 we had heard a loud
在 1 日晚上听到了什么,我们听到了
uh disagreement going on in the room
房间里传来的大声争吵声
adjacent to us was it something that
我们隔壁房间里是否有
sounded like an argument it was a very
听起来像争吵的东西?那是一场非常
loud intense argument from a male and a
大声的激烈争吵,来自
female at Le male and female voices what
Le 房间的一男一女,男女的声音,
time would you say this disturbing took
你认为这起令人不安的事情发生在什么时间?
place I'd say approximately 8:00 p.m.
我认为大约是晚上 8 点。
all right thank you very
好的,非常感谢,
much I just have a few questions to ask
我只有几个问题想问
you could you tell what the argument was
你,你能说出争论的是什么吗?
about I have no idea could you make out
我不知道你能说出当时
the language that was being used my only
使用的语言吗?我唯一的
assumption was it may not have been
假设是它可能不是
English because I couldn't pick out any
英语,因为我看不出来 不要
specific words or expletives in the
在争论中挑出任何特定的单词或咒骂,
argument okay so it's raised voices but
好吧,所以这是提高的声音,但
the subject matter you don't know what
主题你不知道
that would be and exact words you
那会是什么,你听不清确切的单词,这
couldn't make out is that correct that's
是正确的,这是
correct you described it as occurring
你描述的正确 发生
around 8:00
在晚上8点左右
p.m. could you be perhaps mistaken about
你可能搞错了
the time because there was some CCTV
时间,因为有一些闭路电视
footage which recorded the people in the
录像记录了
adjacent room coming into the tell at
隔壁房间的人在 9:00 左右 5 分钟左右进入房间,
about 5 minutes to
9:00 so that would Place perhaps what
所以
you heard at
你可能在
8:00 not having occurred with the
8:00 听到的不是 发生
individuals in the adjacent
在隔壁
room I I mean I don't I don't timestamp
房间的人身上,我的意思是我不知道
when I return after dinner but I would
我晚餐后回来的时间戳,但我
assume there would be about
认为应该是
8:00 but it certainly could have been
8点左右,但肯定可能是
9 all right thanks very much I don't
9点,好吧非常感谢我不知道 我
have any further
没有其他
questions I wanted the jury to
问题了,我希望陪审团
understand the state of the relationship
了解双方关系的状态,
but when you decide to call a witness
但当你决定传唤证人时,
things will not always go well you just
事情并不总是顺利的,你
have to learn to not get too flustered
必须学会不要太慌乱,
about it but now I will go back and Lead
但现在我要回去
evidence about the events which give
关于导致谋杀指控的事件的主要证据,
rise to the murder charge
that day I had spoken to her about 2:00
那天下午 2 点左右我和她谈过,
in the afternoon just ask how she was do
只是问她怎么样,她
and just saying
说
fine that evening I sent her text
很好,那天晚上我给她发了
messages and what we're going to go for
短信,说我们要做什么 出去
a short
散
walk because she was pregnant thought
散步,因为她怀孕了,我想
all short walk that's probably near the
所有短距离的散步可能都在酒店附近,
hotel near the
靠近
shops I asked her have you eaten and she
商店,我问她 你吃了吗,她
said yes I went to wak
说吃了,我去叫醒了
M mag aut next witness is crime number
M mag aut下一个证人是犯罪编号
90 Emma
90 Emma
Todd I want to show the jury how FIA and
Todd我想向陪审团展示FIA和
the accused were behaving on the way to
被告在前往
Arthur's seat so I'm going to call the
Arthur's seat的路上是如何表现的,所以我要打电话给
CCTV coordinator who was on the case I'm
CCTV 负责此案的协调员我
going to start with item 31 Waverly
要从第 31 项开始 Waverly
station now paused it and you see two
站现在暂停了它你看到有两个
people at Waverly station steps leading
人在 Waverly 站台阶上
down into the station is that correct
通往车站这是正确的吗
that's correct yeah and who are they uh
这是正确的是的他们是谁呃
that is cashif an and that is FIA
那是 cashif 和 那是 FIA
shard
碎片
does Mr anir appear to have something in
阿尼尔先生手里好像有什么东西
his hand it appears to be something
看起来像是
similar to a mobile phone yes
一部手机 是的
right again does Mr anware appear to
对了,阿尼尔先生
have something in his hand um yes it
手里好像有什么东西 嗯 是的
appears to be a mobile phone again
看起来像是一部 手机,
okay would it be fair to say within
好的,可以这么说,在
sequence of really a few minutes the
几分钟内,该
device or whatever it is has been
设备或任何设备已被
accessed on several occasions
多次访问过,
yes right thank you very
是的,非常感谢,
D 先生,
good the footage we've been looking at
so far has um depicted the two people
到目前为止,我们一直在查看的镜头 描绘了两个人
walking arm inarm have I picked that up
手挽手行走 手挽手,我没听
correctly have it appeared to be yes
错,看起来是的,
okay almost all the way they are closely
好吧,他们几乎一直都紧紧地依偎
in each other's company physically close
在一起,身体上靠得很近,
to each other certainly arm in arm for a
当然是手挽手了
l
bit now when it got to the point of
一会儿,现在到了外面的时候
being outside the parliament the lady
议会那位女士
had the telephone because she so
有电话,因为她
obviously was taking some photographs
显然自己在拍一些照片,对
herself is that right yes and as she
吗?是的,当她
walked off to join him she has the phone
走开加入他时,她有电话,对
yeah is that right so it it looked as if
吗?所以看起来
she had caught up with him put her arm
她已经追上了他,把她 手臂
into his arm and then taken her arm out
伸进他的手臂,然后把她的手臂
of his arm and done something do you
从他的手臂中拉出来,做了一些事情,你
know if she was putting her phone in her
知道她是否把手机放在
bag she she may have been I don't know I
包里,她可能已经不知道了,
I can't really tell from that to be
说实话,我真的不能从中看出
honest does that mean that you weren't
这意味着你并没有
really looking at it that closely no I'm
真正仔细观察它,不,我
looking at it closely but it's it's hard
仔细观察了它,但从
to tell from a distance or no I please
远处很难分辨,或者不,请
don't think I'm trying to criticize you
不要认为我在批评你,
I'm just asking you about the detail
我只是问问 关于
here you were asked a number of
这里的细节,你被问到了很多
questions about his having the phone but
关于他有电话的问题,但
it she quite obviously ends up with the
很明显,她最终
phone outside the Parliament building
在议会大楼外拿着电话,
she certainly does it the front but I
她肯定 它在前面,但我
cannot tell from there what she does
无法从那里知道她在
with the phone there I could never say
那里用手机做什么,我无法
for certain the last person who's
肯定地说最后一个
noticeably got the phone is the lady
明显拿到手机的人是那位女士
herself that's is that correct I saw you
本人,对吗,我看到
thank you very
你非常感谢
much once they leave the Scottish
一次 他们离开苏格兰
Parliament there's no CCTV cover of the
议会时,CCTV 没有覆盖
route that they
他们所走的路线,
so consequently there's no evidence at
因此,没有任何证据表明
all of how they were as they ascended
他们登上
Arthur
亚瑟
seat later on that evening I sent her a
座位时的情况。那天晚上晚些时候,我给她发了一条
message asking her how's you
信息,问她你怎么样
walk and she didn't
走路时她没有
answer
回答
I got worried but then I thought well
我很担心,但后来我想,
she's pregnant she's probably really
她怀孕了,她可能真的
tired and she's probably gone to
很累,可能
sleep and I thought well as soon as I
睡着了,我想,明天
wake up in the morning I'll ring
早上我一醒来我就会打电话
her the next day at 5:00 in the morning
第二天早上 5:00
there was a knock on the
有人敲门
door
this is a shirt from gateways when she
这是她离开时从 Gateways 买的一件衬衫她
left and all her friends signed
所有的朋友都在
it going to miss you and your point
上面签名会想念你和你的观点
tisues love and
纸巾爱和
kisses this is the teddy bear it says to
亲吻这是泰迪熊 说
FIA life will be sweet once more
FIA 生活将再次变得甜蜜,
inshallah love Mom and Dad that was when
真主保佑我爱你的爸爸妈妈,那时
I was thinking she's coming home for
我正在想她要回家了
good fosy had made up her mind that when
好福西已经下定决心,当
she came back from Edinburgh she was
她从爱丁堡回来时,她
going to start divorce proceedings and
将开始离婚程序, 和
divorce
him she was going to come back to our
他离婚,她打算回到我们
house have the baby in a safe
家,在一个安全的环境中生孩子
environment and be away from him that
,远离他,这
was the
是
plan but he always said you're never
计划,但他总是说你永远不会
going to leave me that's never going to
离开我,这是永远不会
happen so I had CCTV cameras installed
发生的,所以我安装了闭路电视摄像机
because I knew that once for he left him
因为我知道他一旦离开
he wasn't going to leave it at
他就不会就此
that but who thinks that somebody's
罢休,但是谁能想到有人
going to do something so horrific like
会做出如此可怕的事情,
this
did you hear anything out of the
你听到什么异常的声音了吗,
ordinary I heard a female screaming and
我听到一个女人的尖叫声,
then I heard a male screaming you need
然后我听到一个 男人尖叫你需要
an ambulance you
一辆救护车你
think kashf has always been a good lad
认为卡什夫一直是个好小伙子
kashf is a very very good genuine guy
卡什夫是一个非常非常好的真诚的男人
you being a [\h__\h] your husband told you
你是一个婊子你的丈夫告诉你
why the [\h__\h] are you not listening you
你他妈的为什么不听你
not be that British woman I'm telling
you now to work a man accused of
现在告诉你的那个英国女人 一名男子被指控
murdering his pregnant wife by pushing
谋杀怀孕的妻子 把她推
her off Arthur's seat had a history of
下亚瑟的座位,有
controlling and abusive Behavior were
控制和虐待行为的历史,
they hoping their relationship would be
他们是否希望
improved after this trip to Edinburgh no
在这次爱丁堡之行后他们的关系会有所改善,不,
she had plans in place to leave the
她有离开被告的计划,
accused does Mr Anor have something in
阿诺先生手里有没有
his hand something similar to a mobile
类似手机的东西
phone yes the last person who's
电话是的最后一个
明显拿到电话的人是那位女士
herself she was our daughter not their
本人她是我们的女儿不是他们的
daughter she wasn't happy and she was
女儿她不开心她要
ending the relationship why did she came
结束这段关系为什么她要
to of Scotland CU you're a horrible
来苏格兰 CU 你是一个可怕的
person if you look someone you don't
人如果你看某人 你不会
make them feel the way that you make me
让他们感受到你让我感受到的那种感觉
feel I've been a lawyer a long time now
我当律师很久了,
and it's immensely satisfying work
这份工作非常令人满意
but when you're in a trial it's hard
但当你在审判时 很难,
it's It's a
这是
Grind and while privately these cases
苦差事,虽然私下里这些案件
can be quite disturbing and upsetting we
可能相当令人不安和沮丧,但我们
don't show that and we don't allow that
不会表现出来,也不允许
to be revealed in the
court Scotland has an excellent system
法庭上透露,苏格兰有一个很好的制度,
whereby no matter your wealth you can
无论你的财富多少,你都可以
still be defended by the best lawyers
仍然受到最好的防守 律师,
accused persons deserve the best
被告人应该得到最好的
representation and justice has to be
辩护,正义必须
done in the courts it's uh
在法庭上得到伸张,这是
fundamental we have set out the
根本,我们已经阐述了
background of abuse which occurred in
发生在英国的虐待事件的背景,
England But ultimately the jury will not
但最终陪审团不会
be returning a verdict on the events in
对发生在英国的事件作出裁决,
England
cour the key issue is what happened in
关键问题是 是苏格兰发生的事情,
Scotland so today I'm going to call the
所以今天我要传唤
witness who was walking on Arthur seat
那天
night her evidence could be crucial in
晚上在亚瑟王座上散步的证人,她的证据可能对这起
case on the 2nd of September
案件至关重要。2021 年 9 月 2 日,
2021 did you go for a walk on Arthur
你有没有去亚瑟王
seat yes what time did you leave your
座上散步?是的,你什么时候去的 你离开
home I think it was around quarter past
家的时候,我想大概是
8 in the
evening did you reach the top
晚上 8 点一刻,你到达山顶了吗
yes as you made your way down did you
?是的,当你下山的时候,你
hear anything I heard someone behind me
听到什么了吗?我听到身后有人
shout sir did you turn around to see who
喊“先生”,你转过头去看是谁了吗?是的,
it was yes I saw a man who was um
我看到了 一个男人
standing in a sort of elevated space
站在
behind me and he started running towards
我身后一个高处,然后他开始向
me how was he in his
我跑来,他当时的举止怎么样?
demeanor he seemed really panicked he
他似乎真的很慌乱,他
said that he needed help coming down cuz
说他需要帮助才能下来,因为
he couldn't see and that his wife had
他看不见,而且他的妻子已经
fallen
摔倒了
I asked him where she had fallen and he
我问他她掉到哪里了,他
said that he couldn't remember and it
说他不知道 记得,事情
happened in a Flash I think he asked me
发生在一瞬间,我想他问
if I had a phone and I said that it died
我有没有手机,我说手机没电了,
he said that he didn't have his phone on
他说他没带手机
him and that the phones were with his
,手机在他
wife he started sh Ting FIA where are
妻子那里,他开始 sh Ting FIA 在哪里
you and then I started shouting her name
然后我开始喊她的名字,
as
well at some point he said she's
在某个时候,他说她
pregnant and I was really shocked why
怀孕了,我真的很震惊,
were you shocked I felt like if he was
你为什么震惊,我觉得如果他
really really scared he would have said
真的很害怕,他会
something about her being pregnant at
在一开始就说一些关于她怀孕的事情
the start it sort of just seemed like it
好像一切都是
came out the
blue did you locate someone who had a
突如其来的,你找到一个有
telephone yes I saw two people and he
电话的人了吗,是的,我看到了两个人,他
quickly began to run towards
很快就开始向他们跑去
them emergency hey we're up on Arthur's
紧急情况嘿,我们在亚瑟的
seat near the very top of it there's a
座位上,靠近最顶端有一个
guy here he said his wife would fallen
人 他说他的妻子会
off of The Edge I think okay and is the
从悬崖边掉下去,我想没问题,
guy on the police he asked me to call
他让我打电话给那个警察,
because he didn't have a phone with
因为他没有带充电的手机,所以
charge
on I went up the hill a bit so maybe I
我上山了一点,也许我
could jail her name and she could hear
可以把她关进监狱 名字,她能听到
me he also tried to come up the hill as
我的声音,他也试图上山,
well but he wasn't able to why was the
但他没能上来,为什么那个
man not able to come up the hill I think
男人没能上来 上山的时候我觉得
he was
他
slipping oh you okay
滑倒了哦你没事吧
Budd
伙计
time it's going to put on the screen
时间到了屏幕上显示
制作
99 wron saying that you would come from
99错误说你会
left to right up towards that area yes
从左到右走向那个区域是的
but you'll see there two arrows the lady
但你会看到有两个箭头那位女士在
was found where the red arrow is
哪里被发现 红色箭头所指的
positioned
位置,
so did you reach the lady
你找到那位女士了吗
yes was she
?是的,她还
alive
活着吗?
yes did you try to alert the man you've
是的,你有没有试图提醒你
identified as to the fact that you had
确认身份的那个男人,你
discovered his wife yes I I yelled
发现了他的妻子?是的,我大喊,
saying I found her and he yelled back
说我找到了她,他大喊 回头
asking if she was
问她是否在
bleeding is she
流血她在
流血吗
hello is she
你好她在
alive did the lady then hear this
那位女士听到了这段
exchange you shouting to the man and the
对话吗你对那个男人喊道那个
man shouting back yes what was her
男人回应说是的她
reaction to
对此有何反应
that she told me not to let her husband
她告诉我不要让她丈夫
near her and that he had pushed
靠近她并且 他推了
do you recall exactly what she
你还记得她
said she said the first time don't let
说了什么吗?她说第一次不要让
my husband near me he pushed me I was
我丈夫靠近我,他推了我,我
very surprised and I said he pushed you
很惊讶,我说他推了你,
and then she said I think so I can't
然后她说我想是的,我
remember
现在记不清了 会不会有问题,D先生,
good now when you were on the hill um
现在你在山上的时候,嗯,
you I think noticed what he the
我想你注意到了他那位
gentleman had on his feet is that
绅士 他的脚上穿着
correct yes he had Converse sh on now I
匡威鞋,对吗?是的,他现在穿着匡威鞋,我
think you said that when he was coming
想你说的是,当他
towards you he himself was slipping is
向你走来时,他自己在滑倒,
that right yes but I was also we Waring
对吗?但我也是在穿匡威
convers and I wasn't slipping yeah I I
鞋,我没有滑倒,是的,我
wasn't asking you about yourself okay um
没有滑倒。 t问你关于你自己的事情,好吧,嗯,
I was asking you about him was he
我在问你关于他的事情,他
slipping yes he was so you were managing
滑倒了吗,是的,所以你对
the terrain much better than he was
地形的管理比他好得多,是
yes now you described him as is it
的,现在你把他描述成是
panicked is that the word you used
惊慌失措,你用了这个词,
yes he was in a a panic yes the police
是的,他处于一个 恐慌是的,警察
had noted you as saying I think he's
注意到你说我认为他
pushed me is that what she said yes but
推了我,她说是的,但
after that she was adamant that he'd
之后她坚持认为他
pushed her after okay and when you
推了她,好吧,当你
challenged her she said I think so I
质问她时,她说我想是的,我
can't remember yes is that correct
不记得了 对
yes all right thank
吗 是的 好的 谢谢
you right that's no more questions um
你 对 没什么问题了 嗯
can I just commend you if you're bravery
我可以赞扬你的勇气
and humanity and what you tried to do
和人性 以及你所尝试做的事
thank you thank
谢谢你 谢谢
you the young girl who actually come and
你这个年轻的女孩真的来了
great courage she's given to actually uh
她给了我巨大的勇气 实际上,
say she found FIA after SE and FIA told
在 SE 和 FIA 告诉她之后,她找到了 FIA
her that he's pushed me yeah you know it
他一直在激励我,是的,你知道,这
was very hard to sort of digest that you
很难接受,你
know she was wonderful girl it's very
知道她是个很棒的女孩,
fitting that the judge commended the the
法官称赞她非常合适,
the girl yes excellent it's up to the
是的,非常出色,由
jury to decide it's not for me to decide
陪审团决定,而不是由我决定
what to make of it but all the various
但所有的各个
component parts are
组成部分都在
there how she managed to give her
那里,她如何设法
accounts of events is a medical I
讲述事件的来龙去脉,我
believe the Angels Came and woke her
相信天使来了,叫醒
up I didn't know that FIA said those
了她,我不知道 FIA 说了那些
things that was a really upsetting
话,这真的
angered me so much that
让我很沮丧,很生气 那
did I am extremely
让我非常
angry praying helps me
愤怒祈祷帮助我
hope it's our belief that when a person
希望这是我们的信念,当一个人
passes away we pray for them and they
去世时,我们为他们祈祷,他们
are rewarded in the next
会在来世得到回报
life listening to a lot of the detail on
听了很多细节
and then the perpetrator sat in front of
然后 肇事者坐在
you and you can't do
你面前,你
anything naturally your body just fills
自然而然地什么也做不了,你的身体里充满了
with a
rage but Kicking and Screaming it's not
愤怒,但踢打和尖叫并不是
what FIA would have wanted so you have
国际汽联想要的,所以你
to stay calm and make sure that Justice
必须保持冷静,确保正义
gets
得到
done now the next witness is giving
伸张[音乐] 下一位证人将作证
evidence uh by a TV link good afternoon
证据啊,通过电视链接,下午好啊,
uh can you see and hear I can indeed
你能看到和听到吗,我确实可以,
yeah you are a police Constable ranan
是的,你是一名警察,康斯特布尔·拉南·
clutton is that correct that's correct
克拉顿,这是正确的,那是正确的,
were you instructed to attend at
你是否被指示前往
Arthur's seat in relation to a female
亚瑟王座,处理一名
who had apparently fallen from the hill
显然从山上摔下来的女性
that's correct did you locate the lady
是的,你找到那位
who had fallen did yes describe how she
摔倒的女士了吗?是的,你描述过她当时的情况吗?
was
she was amongst
她当时在
Gores it was a very steep incline
戈尔斯山中,那里的坡度非常陡峭,
approximately
大约
45° her shoes had come off her head was
45°。她的鞋子脱落了,她的头
facing towards the summit her feet were
朝着山顶,脚
facing down the
朝着山下。
hill she had had an injury an obvious
希尔,她受了伤,
injury to her head and she was writhing
头部明显受伤,她
in pain but she was able to to speak to
痛苦地扭动着,但她能够跟
me when I asked her
我说话,当我问她
questions did you ask her what had
问题时,你问过她发生了什么事吗?
happened I did yes what was her
我问过,是的,她的反应是什么?
response he said he pushed
说他推了
me I asked her who had pushed her and
我,我问她是谁推了她,
she said my husband because I tried to
她说是我丈夫,因为我试图
end
结束
it I clarified whether whether she meant
这段关系,我澄清她是指
end her life or end her
结束她的生命还是结束她的
relationship and she stated my
关系,她说是我的
relationship did you ask her about a
关系,你问过她关于
phone yes I asked her where her phone
电话的事吗,是的,我问过 她告诉她手机在哪里
was and she stated he's got it he's
,她说他拿到了 他
taken it from
夺走了我的一切,
me she asked me why he was like that why
她问我他为什么那样,为什么
he treated her like
that she asked me if she was going to
那样对待她,她问我她会不会
die and she asked me if her baby was
死,她问我她的孩子会不会
going to die
死,
and it wasn't until the fire service had
直到消防队
arrived that she become
赶到 她
unresponsive when she became
失去意识 当她
unresponsive what did you do I started
失去意识时你做了什么 我开始进行
chest
胸部
compressions did there come a point when
按压 是否到了
further treatment would not be of any
进一步治疗不再
benefit that's
有用的程度 就是
it and at 2218 hours was life pronounced
这样 在 2218 时生命被宣告
extinct
死亡
that's
great thank
太好了 谢谢
you
你
there was a knock on the door at 5:00 in
the morning the next
第二天早上 5 点有人敲门,
day I thought this is going to be bad
我以为这将是一个坏
news yeah it was bad
消息,是的,这是一个坏
news absolutely
消息,非常
horrific I heard some loud screaming
可怕,我听到楼下传来一阵尖叫声,
coming
downstairs wasn't a question of where
不知道在哪里
youd roll over and open your eyes saying
你会翻身睁开眼睛说我
what's on I just drunk out
在做什么我刚刚在床上喝醉了
bed I could see my
我能看到我的
mom she looked at me she said it's for
妈妈她看着我她说这是为
here she's
这里她
died say what are you saying
死了说你在说什么
mom how what happened to
妈妈她怎么了
her and then I says it's him isn't it
然后我说这是 他不是
he's killed
他杀了我
he part of me just wanted to reject the
我的一部分只是想拒绝这个
idea so
想法,
badly I just wanted her back
我只想让她
back oh God I'm going go to
回来哦天哪我要去
toilet I think we might be getting
厕所我想我们可能会被
chucked out cuz it's been way too long
赶出去因为在这里呆得太久了
here oh my God where did you come from
哦天哪 天啊你从哪里来的
her laugh was just contagious it
她的笑声很有感染力让人
couldn't help but laugh with her wa what
忍不住跟着她一起笑这
is
this yay
什么呀
FIA was an angel on Earth perfect in
FIA是人间天使
every way she did voluntary work for the
各方面都很完美她为孤儿做志愿工作
orphans she mentored vulnerable children
她指导弱势儿童
she gave so much to
她付出了很多 对于
society we had so many plans for the
社会,我们对未来有很多计划,但
future we've been
我们的计划被
robbed you
剥夺了,你
know
the members of the jury have heard
陪审团成员已经听到了
evidence of what FIA said on Arthur's
国际汽联在亚瑟座位上所说的话的证据
seat and now we're going to hear
,现在我们要听取
evidence of the accused reaction and
被告的反应和评论的证据,
comments now who's next please have
现在谁是下一个 请让第
deput number 48 on the crown list Sean
48 号副手 Sean Stratford 加入皇家名单,
Stratford what I'm seeking to do is try
我想要做的是尝试
and demonstrate to the jury the State of
向陪审团展示
Mind of the accused which I say was to
被告的精神状态,我说的是
kill his
杀死他的
wife right good morning would you raise
妻子,早上好,你能举起
your right hand please I swear by
你的 请用右手 我向
almighty God I swear by almighty God
全能的上帝发誓 我向全能的上帝发誓
that I will tell the truth that I will
我会说实话 我会
tell the truth the whole truth the whole
说实话 全部的事实 全部的
truth nothing but the truth nothing but
事实 只有事实 只有
the truth yes thank you ADV deut thank
事实 是的 谢谢你 ADV deut 谢谢
Lord are you Sean Stratford yes I am and
上帝是你吗 肖恩·斯特拉特福德 是的
are you a firefighter yes I am on
你是消防员吗?是的,我
arrival at Arthur seat did you meet
到达亚瑟座位时,你有没有遇到
anyone who appeared to be related in
任何看起来与受伤者有某种关系的人?
some way to the injured party yes it was
是的,有
a gentleman came over said that if I
一位先生过来了,他说,如果我没
recall correctly he' stood up they'
记错的话,他“站了起来”,他们“
stood up to take a selfie he'd slipped
站了起来” 为了自拍,他滑倒了
and bumped her and she'd fall
,撞到了她,她
off and how was he he seemed very in my
摔倒了,他怎么样了,在我看来,他看起来很
opinion seemed
calm all right thank you Mr
平静,好吧,谢谢你,卢
lugan now you had a verbal exchange with
根先生,现在你和一个男人进行了口头交流
a man and I think you said he seemed
,我想你说他 看起来很
calm yes sir so I want to ask you to
平静是的先生所以我想请你
listen to a recording then production
听一段录音然后制作
45ct what
45ct
happened what happening we were toward
发生了什么我们正朝着
the edge M and there was a bit of a gap
边缘M走去,中间有一点空隙,
and she was walking in front of us
她走在我们前面,
before I tried grabing her arm and she
然后我试图抓住她的胳膊 她
fell
摔倒了,
and she's 31 she's
她 31 岁,她
pregnant pregnant she's pregnant yeah
怀孕了,她 怀孕了,是的,
she's pregnant she's pregnant's pregnant
她怀孕了,她怀孕了,怀孕了,
yeah all right so when you described him
是的,好吧,所以当你描述他
as quite calm is this just the same as
很平静的时候,这和
how he speaking in this recording no but
他在录音中说话的样子一样吗?不,但
like I say that was just in my opinion
就像我说的,那只是我的看法,
when we got there so okay so I appre it
当我们到达那里的时候,好吧,所以我明白 这
was your opinion but I was trying to
是你的观点,但我想
work out whether the man in this
弄清楚录音中的男人听起来是否和
recording sounded the same as the man
you spoke to when you spoke to him
你和他说话时的声音一样,
no all right thank
没有好的,谢谢
you have a
你,
good did you hear any reference to a
你有没有听到
selfie in that Exchange in the one we
那次交流中提到自拍 在我们
just played no
刚刚演奏的那首歌里,不,
thank
谢谢,
you can you raise your right hand please
你能举起你的右手吗?
I swear by almighty God I swear by
我向全能的上帝发誓,我向
almighty God the jury will hear from a
全能的上帝发誓,陪审团将听取一名
police officer who escorted the accused
警官的证词,该警官将被告
from Arthur's seat to a police
从亚瑟的座位护送到警察局。
station I arrived to Mr an gayfield
我到了 给盖菲尔德警察局的一位先生,
police station and then I was instructed
然后我被指示
to inform him that his wife had died and
通知他,他的妻子已经去世,并
take the statement if he was in a
记录他的声明,如果他在
suitable place to have the statement
合适的地方记录他的声明,
taken I'd like you to read this for us
我希望你慢慢地读给我们听,
slowly
please me and my wife FIA javet have
请我和我的 妻子 FIA javet 已经
been in Edinburgh for a many
在爱丁堡呆了很多年
moon I think we were at wagamamas around
月亮,我想我们大约在 6:00 到达了 wagamamas,
6:00 we then put Arthur's seat in to the
然后我们把亚瑟王座输入到
maps on our phone and walked through the
手机地图上,穿过
train
station I reckon we arrived at the
火车站,我估计我们
bottom of Arthur seat around 7 half
大约在 7 点半到达了亚瑟王座的底部
seven it took us a while to get to the
七点我们花了 花了点时间才到达
top but we eventually got
山顶,但我们最终还是到了
there
那里,
when we got to the top we took some
到达山顶后,我们拍了一些
pictures we' gone there to see the
照片,我们去那里看
sunset but we had just missed
日落,但我们刚刚错过了
it we decided we were going home so we
我们决定回家,所以我们
started to look for a way
开始 寻找
down you were both walking I was to the
下山的路,你们俩都在走,我在
right and she was to my
右边,她在我的
left I lost my balance and fell into her
左边,我失去了平衡,撞到了她,
which caused her to lose her
导致她也失去了
balance I heard her go over the edge and
平衡,我听到她跌到了边缘,
say oh [\h__\h] my
说哦,该死,我的
foot and she started
脚, 她开始
screaming I heard a
尖叫,我听到
thud I kept shouting her name but I
一声闷响,我不停地喊她的名字,但是我
wasn't getting any
没有得到任何
response once that statement was taken
回应,在她做完陈述后,
were you aware of developments with
你是否知道
regard to this inquiry yes so the
这次调查的进展情况,是的,所以
statement was to stop as Mr anir was
陈述必须停止,因为阿尼尔先生
about to be arrested what was he to be
即将被逮捕 他
arrested for for
因
murder was he searched he was
谋杀罪被逮捕了吗?他被搜查了吗?
yes was our telephone recovered from him
是的,我们的电话被找回了吗 是的,
there was yes he said it belonged to his
他说这是他
wife belonged to his wife
妻子的,是的,是他妻子的。
yes
in the time that I've been in the police
在我当警察的时候,
I would say the worst accident I've
我会说,我
heard of on Arthur seat is someone
在亚瑟座上听到的最严重的事故是有人
breaking a
bone people don't fall from it they
骨折了 人们不会从上面掉下来,
don't
so I think it would be fair to say that
所以我认为可以公平地说,
from the outset I was H suspicious that
从一开始我就怀疑
it had been an accident but at the same
这是一场意外,但
time maintaining an open mind that
同时保持开放的心态,
potentially this has been a tragic
这可能是一场悲剧
accident when I began my shift that
那天早上我开始值班时,
morning I was literally told there's a
我被告知有一名
woman that's fallen off AR seat she has
妇女从 AR 座椅上摔了下来,她因
succumbed to those injuries and we have
伤势过重而死亡,我们有
information that suggests her husband
信息表明她的丈夫
has
患有
Pusher we FIA was found was off any
推车症,我们 FIA 发现她偏离了
normal walking route it was within gors
正常的行走路线,就在 Gors 内
it was overgrown it was a difficult area
那里杂草丛生,很难
to reach it would be something that Hill
到达,考虑到陡峭的地形和斜坡,山地
Walkers probably wouldn't try to reach
徒步者可能不会试图到达那里,
given the sheer terrain and the slope
involved we used the Police Service
我们请了
Scotland's Mountain Rescue officers to
苏格兰警察局的山地救援人员来
assist with finding any evidence that we
协助寻找证据 我们
could from FIA indeed getting her back
可以从国际汽联那里得到她
down from Arthur seat in a way that
从亚瑟的座位上下来 这是一种
caused the least distress to the family
对家属
and to The Wider public who would no
和广大公众造成最小痛苦的方式,毫无
doubt have been passing by at that
疑问,当时他们正路过那里。从
time forensically it was going to be
法医角度来说,
very difficult to prove what fzy had
很难证明 fzy 所说的事情确实
said had happened because of the
发生了,因为
injuries she sustained there was never
她所受的伤害 持续的伤害永远没有
going to be the opportunity to show any
机会证明任何
injuries is caused by Kashif Pusher from
伤害是由山上的卡什夫推车造成的,
the
hill the only people that truly knew
唯一真正知道
what had happened were FIA and Kashi you
发生了什么的人是国际汽联和卡什,
raise your right hand please detective
请你举起你的右手,侦探
conal Cabo conducted an interview with
科纳尔·卡波对阿米尔先生进行了采访
Mr
Amir do you see there a a photograph of
你看到了
Mr anir yes I do at 2250 hours did you
阿尼尔先生的照片吗?是的,我看到了。在22:50,你
then proceed to interview the accused
under your caution yes I did should we
按照你的警告继续采访被告?是的,我做到了。我们应该
understand that a person in the position
理解,处于
of Mr anir has a legal right to decline
阿尼尔先生位置的人有合法权利拒绝
to answer questions and very few
回答问题, 很少
exceptions he exercised that right and
有例外,他行使了这项权利,
made no comment that was
没有发表任何评论,这是
crit was he charged with murder shortly
批评,他被指控谋杀后不久,
after that
yes when he got to the charge bar he
是的,当他进入指控栏时,他
asked if he would be getting bailed on
问他是否会在周一获得保释
Monday and then followed up by saying
,然后接着说
probably not not for my good and he then
可能不会 我的好,然后他
began to ask about ad prisms asking how
开始问广告棱镜问
many years I reckoned that he would get
多少年 我估计他会得到
he then said double figures maybe 15 to
两位数,然后他说也许15到
20 years that's a long
20年,这是很长一段
time he said the life is rued now and
时间,他说现在的生活很遗憾,并
asked if this would get media attention
问这是否会引起媒体的关注,
all these comments are made without any
所有这些评论都是我自己没有
response for
回应的,
myself thank
you now if I understand correctly for
现在谢谢你,如果我 理解正确
about an hour you had been interviewing
大约一个小时你一直在采访
Mr anoir while he was under caution and
阿诺尔先生,当时他处于警告状态,
the start of the interview you say what
采访开始时你说
can you tell me about the murder of FIA
你能告诉我关于 2021 年 9 月 2 日 FIA Javid 谋杀案的什么,
Javid on the 2nd of September
2021 how did you know she was
你怎么知道她被
murdered we had information that she had
谋杀了我们 有消息称她已经
passed away and
去世,
the officers at the scene have been told
现场的警察被告知
that she may have been pushed by her
她可能是被
husband but I'm asking you how did you
丈夫推的,但我问你怎么
know she was murdered you've asked the
知道她是被谋杀的,你问的是
question what do you know about the
你知道什么
murder of FIA Javid she had apparently
谋杀 FIA Javid 她显然曾
spoken to someone saying she'd been
与某人交谈过,说她
pushed but he had spoken to someone
被推了,但他曾与某人交谈过,
saying she'd fallen in an accident yes
说她在一次事故中摔倒了,是的,
so you did have information suggesting
所以你确实有信息表明
that he had fallen himself and caused
他自己摔倒了,并导致
her to fall yes and you go on to say
她摔倒,是的,而你 继续说
we're trying to establish what exactly
我们正在试图确定到底
happened that's what you say to him
发生了什么,这就是你所说的 对他来说
isn't it but in actual fact you've told
不是吗但事实上你告诉
him that it's a murder yes that's
他这是谋杀是的这
correct isn't it so you're not that much
是正确的所以你
interested in what actually happened
对实际发生的事情并不那么感兴趣
then are
那么
you no absolutely
你不是绝对的
are and then he says I've been treated
然后他 说我被当成
like a criminal though he was being
罪犯一样对待,虽然他被
treated like a criminal wasn't
当成罪犯一样对待,不是吗,
he that was his opinion he was going to
这是他的观点,
get charged with murder no matter what
无论他说什么,他都会被指控谋杀,
he
said
thank you right there are no more
谢谢你,没有更多
questions so that's your evidence finish
问题了,所以这就是你的证据 完成
you freeze a go thank you thank
你冻结一个去谢谢你谢谢
you the entire Crux of the case rest on
你整个案件的关键在于
whether kashiv anoir pushed his wife
卡什夫·阿诺是否将他的妻子
from Arthur's seat or whether as he said
从亚瑟的座位上推了下来,或者是否如他所说,
he slipped bumped into her and she fell
他滑倒撞到了她,她
from Arthur's
从亚瑟的
seat there's that possibility that FIA
座位上摔了下来,有可能FIA 她
thought she'd been pushed and that kif
以为她被推了,kif
had slipped into at the back of her and
从她身后滑了进来,
she felt like she was pushed but in
她感觉自己被推了,但
actual fact how could we ever prove that
事实上我们怎么能证明
she has been pushed and that's the real
她被推了,这才是真正的
concern
问题。
it was the 4th of September fia's
这是第 4 次 九月 fia 的
birthday few of my family members went
生日我的一些家人 去
tobra to go identify Foria at
托布拉去玛丽识别福里亚
Mary what I should have been celebrating
我应该
with her you know family get together
和她一起庆祝你知道家人聚在一起
giggling laughing
咯咯笑
joking there she was lying in the
开玩笑她躺在
Mary no milon years ago I think this is
玛丽没有米隆几年前我认为这会
going to
happen to turn
发生
up on her birthday that was the hardest
在她的生日那天 最难
part to
accept
接受的
the longer that the trial goes on the
是审判持续的时间越长,
more I'm worried about how fia's family
我就越担心菲亚的家人如何
are coping with
应对与
this coming face to face with Kashif
卡什夫·
amir's family and friends has been
阿米尔的家人和朋友面对面的接触
really difficult for
对他们来说真的很困难
them in the family's eyes yes we've got
家人的眼睛是的,我们有
Kashif and up there being tried for
卡什夫,他因
murder but there are the people who have
谋杀罪而受审,但有些人
enabled things to get to where they got
让事情发展到
to in that
这种
relationship understandably you know
地步,可以理解的是,你知道,这两个
tensions between the families are
家庭之间的紧张关系
running very high on hand on your hand
非常严重
for some of you as family it's been very
对于你们中的一些家人来说,
difficult to contain that anger and that
rage that they
feel to see his mother waving at him in
看到他的母亲在
the public Gallery blowing kisses at him
公共画廊向他挥手,向他飞吻,他们很难抑制自己的愤怒和愤慨,
you know is absolutely disgraceful
你知道这绝对是可耻的,
you know your son's charged for murder
你知道你的儿子被控谋杀
and you've showed no
你已经
remorse yes who's next please okay next
毫无悔意是的,下一个是谁,好的,下一个
witness is Crown witness 103 in the
证人是检方名单上的检方证人 103
crown list Sabin
萨宾·
Rashid very quickly after the
拉希德调查开始后很快,
investigation commenced we learned that
我们了解到
that Kashif had lost his phone at York
卡什夫在前往爱丁堡的途中在约克火车站丢失了手机,
train station when traveling towards
Edinburgh so we realized the phone that
所以我们意识到我们丢失的手机
we' recovered from Kashif was fia's
“从卡什夫身上找到的是国际汽联的
mobile
phone Sabine rased had the huge job of
手机,萨宾·拉希德肩负着
interrogating fia's
审问国际汽联
phone are you Sabin Rashid yes when you
手机的重任,你是萨宾·拉希德吗,是的,当你
examine the mobile phone attributed to
检查
FIA jave where a number of images uh
国际汽联贾维的手机时,发现很多照片,呃,
detect Ed that's
埃德,
correct we understand those to be FIA
没错,我们知道那些是国际汽联
Javed and Kashif anoir yes this was the
贾维德 和 Kashif anoir 是的,这是
last photograph featuring Javed and
Javed 和 anoir 的最后一张照片,对吗?
anoir is that correct that's correct in
examining calls on the device at any
检查设备上的呼叫时,任何
time the Emergency Services number
时候紧急服务号码
triple9 called
triple9 都打来电话,
no okay the chief maintained that he had
不行,局长坚持说他当时
forgot he had the phone in that Panic
慌了,忘了带手机了
however shortly before he' been taking
就在她摔倒前几分钟,他